speed settings (bug?)

[Lodenjoe]

I've noticed that the game speed has changed across different versions. Overall, it's became faster (was it intended or is it a bug?). That's not a big deal in itself, but I can no longer find the setting I preferred.

I seem to recall that some earlier nightly builds had more options available. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but the available speeds aren't what they used to be, so I can no longer achieve "my" speed (minus 2) as easily as before.

One could restore the "normal" speed, as it was in the original S2, or could provide more options. As far as I understand, there are now 7 (or 8) levels.

There are a few options I would suggest:

1. Make all 7 (or 8) speed levels accessible in the options menu (currently there are only 5 to choose).
2. Replace the slowest speed setting in the options menu (Minus 3 is currently enabled in version s25rttr_20250618, which, oddly enough, isn't even accessible via the V hotkey).
3. Make the speed levels variable and adjustable during gameplay. My idea is that each player sets their own speed, and the computer uses the lowest speed setting of any player as a consensus and adopts that setting. For example: If the slowest player increases his speed, the computer will increase it until the next slowest speed setting of another player.

[Flamefire]

The speed hasn't actually changed. It might be that optimizations or hardware allowed for faster actual speeds.

#1829 ensures that you can change to all speed levels in 10ms intervals which you already should be able to.
Maybe there were some issues but couldn't really pin it down to a specific line of code. With the change it is much more reliable, so thanks for the question/issue anyway

For multiplayer games the host decides the speed. Introducing per-player logic is too complex for the benefit. We assume people agree on the speed via Chat or similar.

Similar the speed levels in the menu are coarse grained on purpose. Having all 8 levels there would clutter it too much for any possible benefit as the ingame V key allows for the fine grained control already if that is required at all.

[Lodenjoe]

The speed changes in 10ms steps with V. That's alright. But it's only in Singleplayer possible.

I think I have to do a research for this and search for my version which I used on old PCs. The change was made many years ago. Probably prior 2017, from that year is the oldest nightly build I have and which I tested right now and there is the faster speed already. I played the stable version before. I guess the selectable steps in the multiplayer menu refers to other frame length than in older versions. But anyway I would think another option would be nice. I tested and the speed I preferred was 70ms. This speed isn't available in the menu. It's not really slow, feels more natural. Maybe too slow for some people at the start but in fights you have a bit more time to think before react.

[Flamefire]

I tested and the speed I preferred was 70ms. This speed isn't available in the menu.

We've always had 60ms and 80ms, never 70ms for the presets:

s25client/src/GameConsts.h

Line 412 in cef080e

const unsigned SPEED_GF_LENGTHS[5] = {80,60,50,40,30};

The jump of 20ms from 80 to 60 seems off, but might make sense as the relative difference is smaller than from 60 to 50, i.e. 10/40 == 20/80 if you take both ranges

But it's only in Singleplayer possible.

True, forgot about that.

[Lodenjoe]

We've always had 60ms and 80ms, never 70ms for the presets:

Strange. Is my mind making it up? I was pretty sure. Maybe I confusing it with singleplayer speed. Too bad the old pc is standing somewhere else so it takes a while for the test.

Thank you for your answers.

[Spikeone]

@Flamefire looks like the "V" shortcut can only increase the gamespeed, not decrease it anymore